Jerry P. Shinley Archive: From: jpshinley@my-dejanews.com
Sen. Thomas Dodd Lauds Jim Garrison and Ed Butler
Subject: Sen. Thomas Dodd Lauds Jim Garrison and Ed Butler
Date: 15 Jan 1999 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <77nkvc$a5l$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>Congressional Record Senate Feb 20, 1967 P3958
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Assassination of President Kennedy
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Mr. Dodd. Mr. President, according to press dispatches of the past few days, the office of District Attorney Jim Garrison in New Orleans has been conducting an independent investigation into the Kennedy assassination and his staff has apparently come up with information pointing to the conclusion that the assassination was the work of a conspiracy. Mr. Garrison is quoted as saying that other people besides Lee Harvey Oswald were involved; that the office has the names of people who participated in the initial planning in New Orleans; and that arrests will be made.
Mr. Garrison has an enviable reputation as a district attorney and I am impressed by the fact that he feels confident enough to speak in such positive terms about his findings.
The Warren Report has frequently been cited as finding that Oswald acted alone and that there was no conspiracy. What the Commission actually said was that it had been unable to find evidence of a conspiracy.
The Commission, of course, made its findings on the evidence available at the time its hearings were held. Certainly the members of the Commission would be prepared to review any new evidence bearing on the assassination.
In any estimate of Oswald's motivations, it is important to determine the strength of his pro-Castro sympathies and the extent of his associations with Castro Cuba and pro-Castro Cubans in this country. It is important to learn whether he was simply a Marxist sympathizer or a hardened Communist acting in concert with others.
In that conjunction, I want to call the attention of the Senate to a remarkable record captioned "Oswald : Self-Portrait in Red," which is a debate with certain commentaries between Lee Harvey Oswald and Edward Scannell Butler, which took place over a New Orleans radio station on August 21, 1963, just about 3 months before the assassination of the President.
Mr. Butler, who was known to me prior to the assassination, called my office immediately after it to inform me of the debate with Oswald. At my request, he came to Washington to testify before the Internal Security Subcommittee, and he did so on Sunday, Nov 24, 1963.
I ask unanimous consent, Mr. President, to insert into the record at this point a transcript with comments of Mr. Butler's debate with Lee Harvey Oswald in New Orleans.
[Transcript omitted; too bad because there is some interesting commentary by Hale Boggs and Alton Ochsner. Ochsner claims to have observed the debate.]p3962
Mr. Dodd. Mr. President, I intend to speak at some length on this general subject soon, and I hope to make public the testimony of Mr. Butler before the Internal Security Subcommittee on November 24, 1963.
[end of excerpts]Jerry Shinley
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From: jpshinley@my-dejanews.com
Subject: Re: Sen. Thomas Dodd Lauds Jim Garrison and Ed Butler
Date: 19 Apr 1999 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <7ff7cb$4aa$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>In article <3717fc8b.17695583@mcadams.posc.mu.edu>,
6489mcadamsj@vms.csd.mu.edu (John McAdams) wrote:
> On 15 Jan 1999 09:43:21 -0600, jpshinley@my-dejanews.com wrote:
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> >Congressional Record Senate Feb 20, 1967 P3958
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> Note the date.
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> In all fairness to Dodd, this was well before the utterly fradulent
> nature of the Garrison investigation was obvious.
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> I wouldn't be surprised to find that Dodd changed his mind. In fact,
> since Garrison was -- from Dodd's perspective -- after the *wrong*
> kind of assassins, I would think it highly likely :-).
>
[...]
>
> .John
>
In another thread you seemed willing to credit Russo's testimony that Ferrie was an admirer of Che Guevara and Fidel Castro. Seems like that would have appealed to Dodd. Also consider the following: -
1967 was not a good year for Connecticut Senator Thomas Dodd, famed investigator of Communists and mail-order weapons. Disgruntled staffers had copied his records and given them to columnist Drew Pearson. The Senate was considering a censure vote on various charges, including diverting funds raised at testimonial campaign dinners to purely personal use. His only defender was Russell Long of Louisiana, who had alienated the other Seantors by suggesting that Dodd was no more crooked than any other Senator. As the article below shows, Long needed help from a pair of New Orleans attorneys:New Orleans Times-Picayune
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May 20, 1967 S1-P9
Sen. Dodd Asks Debate's Delay
Senate Leaders Accept Defense Plea
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Washington(AP)
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Sen. Russell B. Long, D-La., Dodd's only declared defender in the Senate, said a New Orleans lawyer named Eberhard Deutsch has volunteered to assist Dodd.
Long said that Deutsch is at work on a memorandum contending that Dodd has been denied due process of law. Long called the attorney one of the greatest trial lawyers of all time. He said Deutsch has already met with Dodd, and volunteered his services without fee.
Long also said at one point, Jim Garrison ... had indicated he would help in the Dodd defense.
"But since then he has become involved in this Kennedy thing," Long said. "so he doesn't have the time and I wouldn't presume to call on him now."
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Feb 21, 1967 S1-P1
Confident He Can Show JFK Killing was Plotted - DA
Believes No Foreign Nation Involved - Garrison
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has a mention that Sen. Thomas Dodd has called for re-opening the Warren Comission.
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Garrison had worked for Eberhard Deutsch's law firm in the 50's. Deutsch did federal court work for Garrison's office. -
This isn't particularly germane, but I'll throw it in anyway:
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May 8, 1965 S1- P5
Zola G. Deutsch Succumbs at 66
Chemical Engineer, Former La. Resident
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chemical engineer, expert on soda ash.
died of heart failure in Hackettstown, N. J.
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"Mr. Deutsch headed his consulting office in New York City until Pearl Harbor Day, when he was one of the first 10 industrialists drafted for the Manhattan Project at Oak Ridge under Leslie Groves. He served there until assigned with a special group of technical experts to assay the damage wrought by conventional 'saturation' bombings."
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brother of Eberhard P. and Hermann B. Deutsch
-Jerry Shinley
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