Jerry P. Shinley Archive: From: jpshinley@my-dejanews.com
Clay Shaw's Fingerprint Cards
Subject: Shaw's Fingerprint Cards
Date: 24 Jan 1999 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <78g4ci$bdl$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>From Ptn. Aloysius Habighorst Shaw testimony (as previously posted be Dave Reitzes):
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1 Q What is your procedure, Officer Habighorst,
2 in fingerprinting someone? What questions
3 do you ask, if any?
4 A Get from them their age, the full name --
5 first, middle and last -- place of birth,
6 date of birth, height, weight, color
7 eyes and hair, and any other names that
8 they may use or may be known by.
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Listing of information from Shaw's NOPD fingerprint card as reproduced in _Destiny Betrayed_ by Jim DiEugenio (p200):
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Residence 1313 Daupaine [sic?] ST N.O.La. Occupation Retired Place of Birth N.O.La. Build Heavy Complexion Fair Hair Gray Eyes Blue Birth Date 3-17-13 Age 53 Weight 225 Height 6'4''
Listing of information from Habighorst's copy of the FBI version of the fingerprint card as reproduced in the New Orleans Times-Picayune, July 30, 1968, S1-P15:
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HAIR GREY EYES BLUE DATE OF BIRTH MARCH 17, 1913 PLACE OF BIRTH NEW ORLEANS, La.
Listing of information from Clay Shaw's booking sheet as reproduced in the New Orleans Times-Picayune, July 30, 1968, S1-P15:
[I couldn't read the headings]
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1313 DAUPHINE ST.
SAME AS ABOVE
NEW ORLEANS, LA. 3-17-13
...
6-4 225 GREY BLUE FAIR HEAVY
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From p. 755 "Who's Who in the South & Southwest 1963/1964" (emphasis added): [as previously posted by Jim Hargrove]
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"Shaw, Clay, business exec.; b. Kentwood , La., Mar. 17, 1913; s. Claris Lenora and Alice Rebecca (Harrington) S.; unmarried. Exec. Western Union Telegraph Co., N.Y. City, 1932-1933; consultant pub. relations and advt., N.Y., 1935-40; organizer, became mng. dir. Internat. Trade Mart, New Orleans, La; ** MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS PERMINDEX ." ** [Remainder of listing omitted]
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[end of excerpts]
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The two fingerprint cards (out of five made the night of March 1, 1967) that I've seen reproductions of list Shaw's place of birth as "N.O.La." (NOPD file card) or "NEW ORLEANS, LA." (Habighorst's copy of FBI card). In fact, as show in the Who's Who listing above, Shaw was born in Kentwood, La, which is near the Mississippi border.
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From this, I draw two conclusions:
-1. It is highly unlikely that Habighorst obtained the information listed on the fingerprint card from questioning Shaw, who surely knew, even under the pressure of being arrested, where he was born.-
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2. If signing these cards doesn't mean Shaw was born in New Orleans, then it doesn't mean he used the alias "Clay Bertrand." If Shaw looked at these cards at all before signing them, he didn't look very closely.Jerry Shinley
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