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Three Smoking Guns?



Subject: Three Smoking Guns?
Date: 04 Nov 1999 00:00:00 GMT
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       From Perry Russo's Shaw trial testimony, as posted by Dave Reitzes:

1    A       Well, Ferrie, his habit was to walk up and down,
2      and he was walking up and down telling
3      how the projected assassination could be
4      pulled off, the assassination of President
5      Kennedy, and during that period of time
6      he told them about this triangulation of
7      crossfire where there would be --
8      (demonstrating) this is a habit he had,
9      was sticking his hand up and showing a
10     three-sided triangulation or a three-
11     cornered triangulation, and he said of
12     these three people, for two of them to
13     escape one would have to be captured as a
14       scapegoat or a patsy for the other two,
15     and that perhaps there would be a diver-
16     sionary shot or all three would shoot at
17     the President somewhere in the middle and
18     one of them would have to be the scapegoat,
19     but perhaps the one that was the scapegoat,
20     there could be what he called a diversion-
21     ary shot and the other two would shoot for
22     the kill or a direct hit.
23     Q     Did he mention the order of shooting at all?
24     A     He did say that there would be -- He said the
25     diversionary shot if fired would be fired
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1      to attract attention, and then instantly
2      the police or whatever was around would
3      look, and said the other two would shoot
4      for the kill, and he said it would be just
5      a slight delay but almost simultaneously.
6      Q     The last two almost simultaneously?
7      A     Well, except for the little small delay all
8      three would be almost simultaneously.
9      Q     Referring specifically to the last two, were
10     they to be almost simultaneously?
11     A     They were to be shot at the same time for the
12     kill.

[end of testimony]


New Orleans Times-Picayune   August 10, 1967   S1-P1

Delay in Perjury Trial Ruled Out
Andrews is Denied Writ from High Court

[Several witnesses were called by Dean Andrews for a pre-trial hearing on Andrews' motion to have Jim Garrison and his office recused as the prosecutors in his perjury trial.]


Andrews also called Garrison to the stand.


       Garrison, sometimes staring at his fingernails or looking blandly off into space, seemed far removed as he sat on the witness stand, answering Andrews' questions and frequently prefacing or ending his replies with "Dean," Andrews' first name.


       Andrews also questioned Garrison about a meeting between the two at Broussard's Restaurant. Garrison said he had a recollection of the meeting, but that it had been so long ago he did not recall some of the specific topics discussed. [Strangely, one of the more vivid scenes in OTTOTA is Garrison's recreation of this meeting.]

       Andrews asked Garrison if at subsequent meetings he recalled discussing an "assassins camp" across Lake Pontchartrain. Garrison said he remembered discussing it, but said it was not necessarily an assassin's camp.


       In other questions Andrews asked Garrison if he recalled that Andrews suggested that Garrison get in touch with Life magazine regarding the Zapruder film [...].

       Garrison said they may have discussed the film, but he did not recall Andrews having made such a suggestion.

       Andrews asked Garrison if he [?] ever said "that was cross triangulation" when Andrews and Garrison were looking at photos of Dealy Plaza in Dallas in relation to the possible position of guns and people. Garrison said he [?] had not.


[end of article excerpts]


Weisberg, Harold. _Oswald in New Orleans: Case for Conspiracy with the CIA_. (New York: Canyon Books, 1967)

p. 138

       After the New Orleans _States-Item_ broke the story of the Garrison investigation on Friday, February 17, 1967, Bob Scott, one of the enterprising reportes for radio station WNAC in Boston phoned [Dean] Andrews for an interview and any information he could provide. A few days later he called Andrews again. On the first call, Andrews was almost unihibited but predicted his memory might fail. On the second call, Andrews made good his prediction. What he could not avoid, he said he did not recall.

p. 140

       As soon as I got a tape of Bob Scott's interview with Andrews, I [Weisberg] sent it to Garrison. Here are a few excerpts from it:

p. 142

       [Andrews :] [...] Actually I have reason to believe that there were three places and that there were two assassins and a dummy and all they caught was what they were supposed to catch -- the dumbbell. The two real people, the hit and the follow-up hit, - you can't lay three shots, you know, the way they say they did but you can figure Assassin A, pow. You can figure Assassin B, pow, and Assassin A, pow, and you get three shots.

[end of excerpts]

       To summarize, at the Shaw trial, Perry Russo recounted an alleged shooting scenario proposed by David Ferrie, involving "triangulation" with two gunmen plus a scapegoat or patsy. At a pre-trial hearing related to his perjury charges, Dean Andrews asked Jim Garrison a question which implied that he and Garrison had discussed the assassination and had come up with the idea that "triangulation" was involved. Garrison denied this. But on or about February 17, 1967, Andrews in an interview with Bob Scott had described a shooting scenario involving two real gunmen and a "dumbbell." The main difference between Andrews' version and Russo's account is that Russo said that Ferrie had suggested a simultaneous firing, whereas Andrews had suggested a sequential firing.

Jerry Shinley

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